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2 years 4 months ago #379
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I have an SSO AD project that will generate RNG that I am trying to figure out the carbon intensity for. I have a few questions.
1. On the Input Sheet under the CHARACTERISTICS OF FUELS, GASES, AND FEEDSTOCKS section, it is not clear as to where I can set the MSW SSO feedstock input (other than Switchgrass (S), Corn stover (C) or Wheat Straw (W) on cells B to D59. Can you please advise?
2. On the Input Sheet under the EMISSIONS DISPLACED BY CO PRODUCTS OF FUEL PRODUCTION PROCESSES section, I see where I can input the fuel displaced for waste (column AG), but I do not see anything for CNG. In terms of NG, there appears to only be NG/Boiler and NG/Turbine. Is there a better option here?
3. I assume the MSW methane emission factor is meant to capture fugitive methane emissions from landfills (per t/MSW)? Where did the default value come from
4. Also, I have some AD residuals that will be placed on agricultural land, but I cannot seem to locate a worksheet / cell where I can enter that in. Can you please advise?
1. On the Input Sheet under the CHARACTERISTICS OF FUELS, GASES, AND FEEDSTOCKS section, it is not clear as to where I can set the MSW SSO feedstock input (other than Switchgrass (S), Corn stover (C) or Wheat Straw (W) on cells B to D59. Can you please advise?
2. On the Input Sheet under the EMISSIONS DISPLACED BY CO PRODUCTS OF FUEL PRODUCTION PROCESSES section, I see where I can input the fuel displaced for waste (column AG), but I do not see anything for CNG. In terms of NG, there appears to only be NG/Boiler and NG/Turbine. Is there a better option here?
3. I assume the MSW methane emission factor is meant to capture fugitive methane emissions from landfills (per t/MSW)? Where did the default value come from
4. Also, I have some AD residuals that will be placed on agricultural land, but I cannot seem to locate a worksheet / cell where I can enter that in. Can you please advise?
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2 years 4 months ago #384
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This pathway is modelled using column BE rows 240 to 247. The dry weight of the SSO is entered in cell BE 246.
1. For the co-products, there is an option to get a credit for the nutrients in the digestate and any electricity that might be generated as a co-product.
2. The nutrient information would be entered in column AL, rows 276 to 279. Any electricity would be entered in AL 273 and if AO 276 is generic power then the credit for the electricity is based on displacing the grid power.
3. The default value is based on a conservative value that has a lot of garden waste. In the next version of the model we will have more options based on the US EPA Warms model. Food waste would be up to 250 g CH4/kg.
4. See the answer in 2. above.
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1. For the co-products, there is an option to get a credit for the nutrients in the digestate and any electricity that might be generated as a co-product.
2. The nutrient information would be entered in column AL, rows 276 to 279. Any electricity would be entered in AL 273 and if AO 276 is generic power then the credit for the electricity is based on displacing the grid power.
3. The default value is based on a conservative value that has a lot of garden waste. In the next version of the model we will have more options based on the US EPA Warms model. Food waste would be up to 250 g CH4/kg.
4. See the answer in 2. above.
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Don O'Connor
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2 years 4 months ago #387
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Thanks for this input. As a follow up, I was adjusting the RNG blends (LFG, AD, etc) and the organic waste methane and MSW methane emission factors and re-running the model to see how sensitive the model was to these changes (putting the organic waste EF to 250, for instance) and found that the outcome does not change. Is there a reason for that?
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2 years 4 months ago #389
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The mix of types of RNG only impacts the values on the lifecycle results sheet and the LDV and HDV summary sheets, so if you were looking for changes on the upstream results sheets there will be none.
Changes to the organic waste avoided emission value F47 will only change the value on column BO on the upstream sheet (and other values that rely on that column).
Changes to F48 will change the values in column DK and any of the results that rely on that column.
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Changes to the organic waste avoided emission value F47 will only change the value on column BO on the upstream sheet (and other values that rely on that column).
Changes to F48 will change the values in column DK and any of the results that rely on that column.
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2 years 3 months ago #392
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Thanks for the prompt response. I am trying to understand the "Carbon Sequestration for fuel production". Is this really sequestration or just the displacement of fossil fuels? I am trying to understand how an SSO AD to RNG project would result in carbon sequestration.
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2 years 3 months ago #393
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I was just tracing the emissions -displaced - co-products value on Cell BN19 of the "Upstream HHV Results" worksheet and noted that the formula "=(-'Alt Fuel Prod'!BV25*Coprods!A45*GWP!C10-Coprods!AC120+$DG19*'Alt Fuel Prod'!BV22*'Fuel Char'!$K$133/1000)*'Energy Use'!K57)" references "Coprods!AC120" which takes the Total Co-products (g/GJ-fuel) from the "RNG Manure/Grass" column (AC), instead of the "RNG Organic Waste" column (AD) on the "Coprods" sheet. My concern with this is that the residuals from the project are not recognized as the value in cell AC120 is zero, whereas there is a value in AD120. Assuming that there is a rational reason to this, in order to purposely recognize the application of the residuals from this AD project, should I then enter in my nutrient information into column AK, rows 276 to 279 on the "Input" sheet?
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2 years 3 months ago #395
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It is technically possible to take the CO2 from the AD process and sequester it. It may not be practical but it is possible.
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2 years 3 months ago #396
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The CRNG AD pathway has some inconsistent naming in 5.01 that will be more clear in 5.02.
The CRNG from AD in BN on Upstream Results does correspond with the RNG from Manure/Grass pathway on Coprods. In the future those two sheets will have more similar naming.
And yes, for using the RNG from AD output on Upstream Results, you should be putting your coproduct information in AK 276 to 279 on the Input sheet.
The CRNG from AD in BN on Upstream Results does correspond with the RNG from Manure/Grass pathway on Coprods. In the future those two sheets will have more similar naming.
And yes, for using the RNG from AD output on Upstream Results, you should be putting your coproduct information in AK 276 to 279 on the Input sheet.
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